the fucked up thing about the salvation army is that theyre arguably the most visible and prominent hate group in america, but you cant hastle them or even protest them because to everyone else it would look like youre curb stomping santa clsuse
I find this is similar to what I run into when I criticize Human Rights Campaign. “No really I know what they’re called but they really do hate poor non-white gay people!” “Nonsense! Not the HRC! They’re great!”
Oh okay then.
I didn’t know that about the Human Rights Campaign! Thanks for the psa
sorry to jump in, but i worked for the HRC at one point in my life and i can absolutely confirm that they’re kinda horrible internally and cover it up with their campaign messages so that no one can criticize them.
i found out about them because i went to a research university in downtown chicago. my university was obviously extremely liberal and i ran into a bunch of canvassers on my way to class. if you don’t know, canvassers are the people standing on the sidewalks/street corners with tablets and/or clipboards who give you a speech and ask for money. pretty typical. i got stopped, told them i had no money, but that i supported their cause because i was trans and gay. and… this person’s eyes lit up when they heard that, and they went “hey, why don’t you come work for us?”
i know that seems like a good gig and an easy job, but it really sucks knowing that the only reason you got a job offer is because you’re transgender. they didn’t care about my qualifications. they didn’t even care about my safety. they wanted points for hiring transgender people and where i was working in the chicago offices, they went through a period of time where they were only offering jobs or interviewing trans people based only on the qualification that they were trans. everyone in my interview group was trans, and every one of us immediately got a job offer. they literally did not care about our qulaifications. they didn’t even want resumes. they just wanted us if we were trans. i came to find out that canvassers and their group leaders were only told to give interview offers to trans people at the time and bonus points if they were non-white.
anyways, that’s not the full story.
i needed money at the time. i was taking whatever i could get. they were pretty deceptive about the job and didn’t tell me what it would entail. i would not have taken the job had i known that it would involve standing outside on street corners for 8 hours a day in the chicago winters and not being allowed to sit down, even for a lunch break (”but dave, that’s illegal!” sometimes people don’t care what’s illegal.). this was the same for many of the other people i was working with. they did not tell us about what the job was or what it would entail and if you were disabled, came into work, and found out that you are required to stand for 8 hours a day in freezing weather, then it really just sucks to be you, sorry, they don’t give accommodations.
i’m sure you can imagine that putting a bunch of lgbt (particularly trans, since that’s the main group they were hiring) people out on street corners in almost every neighborhood of chicago wasn’t a great idea. i’m sure you can imagine that canvassers weren’t treated well in neighborhoods that had a high amount of older, conservative people in it. HRC’s ‘failsafe’ for protecting their canvassers is… if you feel threatened by someone you’re talking to, you’ll put your tablet/clipboard on your head and wait for your group leader to help you. but the thing is, your group leader is also talking to people and asking them for money, typically while standing on the other side of the street, not facing you.
i don’t talk about this job to people. i don’t even put it on my resume. the reason i left is not because they hired me literally because i was transgender or the fact that they wouldn’t let me sit or anything despite a very obvious physical disability. the reason i left was because on my third day of work, a man got extremely angry at me when he realized i was transgender, left and returned three different times to harass me and call me slurs, and the third time, physically grabbed my arm to attempt to drag me away. yeah, i put my clipboard on my head. but guess what? my group leader was on the other side of the street, facing away from me, and when i told her about this, she basically just shrugged and told me it was part of the job.
there’s other reasons this job was horrendous and unethical. it’s incredibly true that the HRC does not give a shit about anyone other than white gays. despite their phase where they ONLY hired transgender people in chicago, they don’t care about trans people. they treat their employees terribly. if you didn’t make a quota of a certain amount of money two days in a row, they would fire you point blank. no discussion as to the weather (blizzards and heavy snow are fairly common in chicago) or the fact that they had you on poor college campuses in the middle of finals week. nope, fired. also, if you messed up the ridiculously long and complicated script, even by a couple words, they could and would dock your pay. there was also the fact it was nearly impossible for donators to cancel monthly donations and the fact that we were often sent to pray on poor communities. everything about this place was straight up unethical, from their hiring practices, the things they donate money to, and the way they treat their employees.
oh, and at least when i was working there, most of the profits went to the highest people in the company. little was actually donated. and HRC tried to take credit for a lot of advances in LGBT progress when they had next to nothing to do with it.
sorry that i sorta derailed this post because salvation army is fucking horrendous also, but i saw someone talking about the HRC and wanted to throw in my little known part about how the company works and the terrible ways they treat their employees.
Like 93% of the self-contradictory behavior of fandom antis clicks into place when you realize the majority of them are victims of right wing authoritarian training from birth
Here, ‘right wing’ means ‘hates social change & prefers the established order/traditional way of doing things’, not ‘republican’. (Though in America it’s Republicans who have been taken over by right wing authoritarians. (Specifically Christian fundamentalist authoritarians.))
Authoritarianism can also be ‘left wing’, meaning ‘wants to overthrow the established order/traditional way of doing things’. people who supported Stalin when he overthrew Russia’s rulers would have been left-wing authoritarians.
All it takes to be an eager follower of authoritarian rule of any kind is
being very, very afraid
pretending you’re not afraid by being self-righteous
And reacting with
dogmatic loyalty to your ingroup – anyone who agrees with you – and your chosen leader to the point of defying logic, reason, and truth
burning resentment towards people who make you aware of your fear – and taking it out on a scapegoat (someone who you can pretend is scary, but you know can’t hurt you back)
deciding that you and your group is soafraid of somethingRight about everything that it’s your duty to wipe outthe thing you’re afraid ofthe Evil you oppose – and make everybody else agree (or pretend to agree) with you along the way.
like @curlicuecal said: authoritarianism can be found anywhere, and authoritarians can walk all kinds of life paths. it takes root wherever a would-be despot finds enough scared, hyper-submissive people they can rally to their cause and start crusading with.
I mean, fandom antis aren’t political right-wingers, but they’re doing just fine at this, aren’t they?
someone said:
People who dont like pedophilia are radical right wingers now huh?
first of all, a fun fact: most people who call literally everyone who they don’t like ‘pedophiles’ actually are radically right-wing – both politically and in the ‘everything that isn’t traditional is bad’ sense. like: antis literally lifted this tactic from fundamentalist Christians who say all gay people are pedophiles.
‘people who disagree with me are sexual perverts!!!’ is the most right-wing propaganda tactic there is.
that aside: please read more closely.
I don’t think fandom antis are right wing authoritarians: I think a whole bunch of them are the kids of right wing authoritarians.
I think their parents instilled all their own fear and anger and hatred and rigidity into their kid’s brain from day one. and after stuffing their kid with all this fear and alarm about the chaotic world out there … what should we expect their kids to feel when they realize they’re LGBT+/queer, or have a mental illness, or don’t believe in the same God as their parents do, or whatever else puts them on the ‘wrong’ side of order vs chaos?
If they don’t outright oppress & bury their own self-awareness – if they tentatively venture out and look for their own people – is it reasonable to expect adolescents who grew up trained for an authoritarian lifestyle to not fall facefirst into politically leftist spaces that promise authoritarian safety, rigidity, aggression and leadership? is it a surprise that many of them settle into spaces that keeps the things that might still scare them (their sexuality and their awareness of it, their gender, their sex drive or lack thereof) strictly off-limits? that lets them blow off their anger in familiar patterns of aggression towards outsiders? that lets them keep feeling like a Good Person despite their fear otherwise?
my point is this:
are all fandom antis from homes like this? of course not. anti-shipping isn’t a monolith, though the authoritarian part of it is by far the most organized.
but when I look at fandom anti-shipping as a movement that is primarily authoritarian in operation & design, a lot of the things I couldn’t understand before begin to make sense. (which I’ll elaborate on someday, I’m sure.)
I’ve known a lot of children of authoritarians in my life and in my experience this is very true and not only in a fandom context. I think a lot of purity discourse – and here I mean “purity” not as sexually pure but as “undiluted” or “uncontaminated”; the “you must be this [insert characteristic here] to be allowed in my in-group” exclusionary tactics – come from this background and mode of thinking.
It’s funny; sorry to make this about me but I grew up in a time and a place where most of the people I knew were children of former hippies and didn’t meet many children of authoritarians until I went away to college. The forms of liberal activism that I learned from hippies and the children of hippies are very, very different from the radical exclusionism that I so often see described by children of authoritarians as the “only” acceptable form of liberal activism. While I’ve known a small number of authoritarians who were rebelling against hippie parents, by far the most extreme left-wing authoritarians I’ve known in my life were children of right-wing authoritarians who were so, so convinced that they were the opposite of their parents even as they repeated the tactics they’d learned from their parents.
i don’t think people understand that people can ‘love’ you and not actually love you
like my grandmother ‘loved’ me, but she also was always trying to change me. she tried to take me away from my (catholic bisexual) mother. she made me wear dresses when i was there. she always tried to get me to go to church and was always asking me if i was dating a boy yet
i spent years feeling guilty that i wasn’t what she wanted me to be until my mom told me one day “she never bothered to know the real you”
and it’s true. any time i tried to show her something about myself, even cook for her, it would be dismissed, and a replacement would be offered. even northern food was somehow a sin.
she loved me what she thought i should be, she never loved me.
bc people who love you, they love you for all the stuff that makes you you. they never consider that it makes you inconvenient.
“It was true: the other mother loved her. But she loved Coraline as a miser loves money, or a dragon loves its gold.“
Loving someone like a prized possession is a very different thing from loving someone like a person you care about.
nail polish is goblincore bc you can make your fingernails colorful and sparkly and also you can hoard the bottles which are colorful and make good clacking sounds
why limit yourself between choosing between a pretty feminine aesthetic or a dark one? if persephone can be the goddess of spring & queen of the underworld at the same time so can you
This is both against the gender roles that God put forth and in favor of the worship of pagan God’s. This is blatant satanic blasphemy
frollo has logged tf on
Reblog if you too are against the gender roles that God put forth and in favor of the worship of pagan Gods.
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the question of whether modern internet humor is dadaist is fascinating because sure on a surface level, it absolutely resembles dadaist art of the 1920′s but my question is…………..is it art?
the original dada movement emerged specifically to interact with that question, of whether an incoherent collage, or a gold-plated toilet seat, or poetry pulled out of a hat should be considered art
but internet humor? it exists solely for us to entertain one another. it doesn’t give a shit about what art is or isn’t, and comments like “this belongs in a museum” or “where’s her oscar” always come after the fact, and, more importantly, are made specifically to add entertainment value
so my take for today is that internet humor isn’t neo-dada, or post-dada, or even “e-dada” or “#dada”; as a mass movement concerned more with community participation than performance to an audience and wholly unconcerned with questions about higher meaning…………….this is folk dada